Also what about SSj2 multiplier then? 2x "SSJ" or FPSSJ. In DBS Trunks's Grade 3 bluff against Vegeta very strongly implies Grade 3 > SSJ2. He goes from SSJ2 to Grade 3, tricking Vegeta into ...Dec 18, 2016 · What are the multipliers for Super Saiyan Grade 2 & SSJ Grade 3, otherwise known as Ascended Super Saiyan & Ultra Super Saiyan? Are they stronger than Super ... the other sagas? We still have the official [danzenshuu] SSJ2 and SSJ3 multipliers, the best we can do is to use then and ignore the training, lets do it, even tho is a big downplay not to consider their hyperbolic training and further Zenkai boosts. SSJ2 multiplier = Base x100 [or SSJ1 x 2] SSJ2 Goku. PL 300.000.000 = 1.499.997.000 KPH [1.5X FTL]Maybe the Saiyan cells in SP Cell's DNA turned SSJ2. Or just Goku/Gohan's (not sure if Gohan's cells are a part of him) portions only, while Vegeta's portion was still in SSJ1 lmao. But full power SSJ2 Kid Gohan was still clearly stronger due to being... an actual Saiyan (with more potential than Goku/Vegeta) after all.Jul 9, 16 at 8:37am (PST) ^. re: LSsj form multiplier vs Ssj2 multiplier. No, I think Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan Grade 3 are both different manifestations of tapping into the same "beyond ...re: SSj2 & SSj3 Multipliers I find the "Kaioshin's an idiot" approach to work particularly well there. In fact, it works particularly well for a wide range of things in the Majin Boo arc.What is the multiplier for dbs. I know SSJ=50x SSJ2=100x SSJ3=400x? (There are some people that debate the multiplier is 300x or 400x so idk.) But what is SSG, SSB, Omen UI, MUI, Ultra Ego multiplier? I’ve heard that some people said SSG is a 20,000x multiplier, which doesn’t make sense to me because how can a god power can be so low.Ssj-X50 the ascension phases are no longer used, but they could stack all the way to be close to ssj2 in strength alone. Ssj2-X4 Ssj, it’s essentially ssj grade 3 that trunks and goku used ...Sign in with the following networks. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Now, we can kind of estimate how much of a boost Majin gives IF we assume that a Majin power boost is a multiplier rather than a simple addition, like most Dragon Ball power ups. The issue with this is that that would mean Majin is roughly a 20x power boost and that would mean SSJ2 Vegeta, before he got Majin, would've been roughly 20x weaker ...Emperor Pilaf Saga. Turtle = 0.001 Pocawatha = 1 Puar = 2 Oolong = 3 Bulma = 4 Sherman Priest = 4 Monster Carrot = 5 Pterodactyl = 7 Bear Thief = 8Pass. Updated. Mar. 12, 2023. Description. Stronger than Super Saiyan but weaker than Super Saiyan 2. DO NOT buy if you have SSJ2. Multiplier: 85x. 2. Roblox is a global platform that brings people together through play.Goku and Vegeta fighting together was no match for Buuhan, but Vegetto's base form already was stronger than him, meaning the multiplier bonus from fusions is pretty insane. - Caulifla was not stronger than Goku ssj2, but she was a decent fighter, possibly in a level between Goku in Buu saga and Vegeta after training 6 months alone with Whis.Not sure if it's a multiplier per se, so much as it's an addition to regular SSJ that puts him on par with SSJ2. He has a unique, dark green-haired transformation that's shown to be more powerful than SSJ Vegeta. Going regular SSJ while in this form is what triggered LSSJ. Meanwhile, his base form isn't that much stronger than base Goku.Updated Super Saiyan multipliers. Pseudo Super Saiyan: 50 times base (It's a mis-colored Super Saiyan) Super Saiyan grade 3: 100times base, massive speed reduction, 50% boost from grade 2. Super Saiyan 2: 100 times base, times 2 from Super Saiyan. (No Speed reduction).Hey, I wanted to ask you guys, what exactly the multiplier of SSJ2 is. In the Daizenshuu & Super Exciting Guide character Volume its stated to be a 100 x Base multiplier but …As we already know, each SSJ form have it's own multiplier where SSJ1 is 50 times of the user base ki, SSJ2 is twice of SSJ1 ki, and SSJ3 is 8 times of SSJ1 or 4 times of SSJ2. So we can make these equations: Base = X SSJ1 = 50X SSJ2 = 2 (50X) = 100X SSJ3 = 8 (50X) = 400X. As regular Kaio-Ken is a multiplication of Base ki, therefore Super Kaio ...Jun 8, 2020 · SSJ - G5 / SSJ2 - x100 (confirmed in an interview with Toriyama) SSJ3 - x400 (confirmed in an interview with Toriyama ) SSJ4 - x500 (If Super Saiyan Four is just the strength and speed of an Oozaru (of which I would assume it would be the Golden Oozaru ), then it seems like a no-brainer that it would have the same multiplier.) Jul 9, 16 at 8:37am (PST) ^. re: LSsj form multiplier vs Ssj2 multiplier. No, I think Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan Grade 3 are both different manifestations of tapping into the same "beyond ... Jul 28, 2022. #1. Hi guys, so bassically, I've been thinking about the ''multiplier'' of SSG Post Ritual the last days and the concensus in this section about the multiplier having decreased. Some posters have it as supersaiyan 3 times 10 others have it higher. This thread prolly serves nothing new for the most of it but might give a new ...thats true. cells zenkai was able to make up the difference, regardless of the ssj2 multiplier. and well, I'm glad you get the PL being BS fallacy. I think the one time [well more than 1] where the bigger stronger power level meant nothing was ussj trunks vs cell, but that was conditional. the buffed cell was also the same idea.1,631. May 23, 2023. #1. Super Saiyan God Multipler. It was accepted here that Super Saiyan Grade 3 is 10x SSJ meaning we now have a SSJ2 multiplier to scale. With SSJ2 having a multiplier SSJ3 would by default scale above that said multiplier meaning: SSJ: 50. SSJ2 - SSJ3: 500x. Super Saiyan God = 500x SSJ3.Grade 1: Power multiplier of 50, seen used by Goku on Namek, and presumably Vegeta against A19. Grade 3: the failed state used by Trunks and (briefly) Goku. Grade 4: what we see Goku and Gohan using when they exit the RoSaT and then on. So then, the multiplier for Ssj2 is x2 Ssj’s power (x100 base).Sign in with the following networks. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:It's basically impossible for SSJ2 to be a 2x multiplier, but I managed to make numbers regarding Gohan vs Cell following this route. PC (vs Gohan): 98 FP PC: 120 Buffed: 150 SPC: 196 SSJ Gohan: 100 SSJ2 Gohan: 200 A justification that can be make about Cell (vs Gohan) against SSJ Gohan can...Nov 8, 2021 · Updated Super Saiyan multipliers. Pseudo Super Saiyan: 50 times base (It's a mis-colored Super Saiyan) Super Saiyan grade 3: 100times base, massive speed reduction, 50% boost from grade 2. Super Saiyan 2: 100 times base, times 2 from Super Saiyan. (No Speed reduction). Beast (, ビースト, Bīsuto) is a powerful transformation utilized by Gohan. The Beast form is unique to Gohan outside of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, and when utilizing the form he is referred to as Gohan Beast (孫そん 悟ご飯はん・ビースト, Son Gohan Bīsuto). Toriyama stated that the name comes from the sensation that "the wild beast within has …This 'path' possesses a 20x multiplier on top of advanced Super Saiyan Blue 2 or 4x on top of mastered Super Saiyan Blue 2. Rage Empowerment [] Gohan-Super Saiyan Blue 2. The last know path is the rage empowerment. This boost in power is the weakest power amplifier of all the 'paths' due to the power being boosted by pure emotion.The discussion of Gohan having a large rage mutliplier in his SSJ2 form when fighting Cell got me thinking of something...Yes, Future Trunks and Vegeta's SSJ2 multipliers are respectively shown way higher than Goku's own SSJ2 multiplier during the DBS Manga Zamasu arc. Pretty sure Vegeta was simply just stronger than Goku Black. As for Trunks SSJ2, he increased the multiplier for SSJ2, but it's never explained how that was even possible.The discussion of Gohan having a large rage mutliplier in his SSJ2 form when fighting Cell got me thinking of something...The numbers for SSJ multiplier ARE canon, multiplier for SSJ1 is 50x the user base, SSJ2 is 2x of the user's SSJ1 multiplier and SSJ3 is 4x of the user's SSJ2 multiplier. Note that, a Saiyan with stronger base can be stronger in SSJ1 against a Saiyan with far weaker base in SSJ3 transformation.SSJ2: >4,440x (Daizenshuu, 2 x Grade 4) SSJ3: >17,600x (Daizenshuu, 4 x SSJ2) Grade 2 Vegeta in grade 2 was able to tank a galick gun from Semi-Perfect Cell And in order to tank an attack, you need 2x the ki the opponent is emitting Galick Gun is stated to be similar to Kamehameha and Kamehameha is a 2.221153846153846x multiplierThe official multiplier for SSJ1 is a 50x base and SSJ2 (or SSJ 5. Grade) a 100x base. The grades in between are just boosts to the first SSJ form. NO MULTIPLIERS! For example Vegeta would get a higher PL in his ascended form then in his SSJ form but nothing that comes near to SSJ2.Jan 18, 2017 · Here are the power level multipliers that we know to be official. SSJ-X50. SSJ2-X100. SSJ3-X400. Here are the speculated ones. SSJ4-X500/4000. SSJG-X40000. SSJB-X2000000. Kaioken-X1.5 (anything over a basic Kaioken is just the multiplier Goku uses, like Kaioken X2 = X2 power level) The Super Saiyan state itself is a 50 times multiplier on the base state of a Saiyan, which means that a Super Saiyan 3 form makes a user 400 times as strong as they are in their base state. 2 The Initial Idea. Akira Toriyama is known to have drafted quite a number of designs for Super Saiyan 3 before actually settling for the one that we're so …Less than SSJ2 that is 100 times base, I'd say SSJ Full Power is 80 times base.Now, the multipliers. Regular or Basic, unmastered Ssj (aka: Virgin Super Saiyan): 50× Basic Ssj2: 100× Basic Ssj3: 400× Now, here is the thing. Ssj2 is 2 times ssj1 and ssj3 is 4 times ssj2. Is kind of an exponential increase, thus i make the multiplier 2 units higher than the previous one. Like this: Basic Ssj4: Ssj3×6=2400 Jul 14, 2015 · SSJ3 Multiplier. Hello, new member here and former longtime guest of Kanzenshuu's forums...anyways. I am aware the guidebooks 'officially' list SSJ3 as being a 4x greater multiplier from SSJ2 (which is x2 from SSJ1) and is supposedly the ultimate power of a Saiyan, not counting SSJG/SSJGSS. However I theorize that SSJ3 should be like SSJ2 in ... Also what about SSj2 multiplier then? 2x "SSJ" or FPSSJ. In DBS Trunks's Grade 3 bluff against Vegeta very strongly implies Grade 3 > SSJ2. He goes from SSJ2 to Grade 3, tricking Vegeta into ...SSJ2 God = x500000000 SSJ3 God = x1000000000 SSJ4 God = x10000000000 Thats all! My multipliers [] I have two lists. One where I use official multipliers, and one with fan …I'd say at most, the multiplier would be 60,000x Ssj3, because it kinda makes more sense. The multiplier isn't too big, but it's not too small either. And this in turn would give base goku a ...Super Saiyan 2 (超 スーパー サイヤ 人 じん 2 ツー, Sūpā Saiya-jin Tsū), initially referred to as Super Saiyan Fifth Grade (超サイヤ人第五段階, Sūpā Saiya-jin Dai-Go Dankai) at the time of its debut, though referred to as "Ascended Super Saiyan" in the Funimation dub only, is the direct successor to the first Super Saiyan transformation.SSjBEvo is already around 20x SSjB which makes it stronger than hypothetical SSjGSS3 which would be 8-16x SSjB depending on your SSj2 multiplier being 2-4x SSj. They just want sell more figures.re: SSj2 & SSj3 Multipliers I find the "Kaioshin's an idiot" approach to work particularly well there. In fact, it works particularly well for a wide range of things in the Majin Boo arc.2023 оны 5-р сарын 11 ... SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier from SSJ and Gohan killed Cell at half Ki, meaning he was at the power of his Mastered Super Saiyan self. This means ...What are the multipliers for Super Saiyan Grade 2 & SSJ Grade 3, otherwise known as Ascended Super Saiyan & Ultra Super Saiyan? Are they stronger than Super ...A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character. The use of multipliers to gain new statistics is usually a controversially …In the SEG which had little to no involvement from Toriyama so why should we believe them exactly? No because 2x implies a Super Saiyan could potentially kill a Super Saiyan 2 with a charged attack which is laughable. Why is it laughable?As for your multipliers, I'm assuming [50,100] is a range which means that SSJ can be 100x base. I disagree with this since SSJ2=2x SSJ and hence SSJ2=100x base. While there are different grades within SSJ such as ASSJ, USSJ, and FPSSJ, I generally follow the rule that FPSSJ=1.5x SSJ. I didn't put grades on the other Super Saiyan forms.A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character. The use of multipliers to gain new statistics is usually a controversially …5.9K. 261K views 3 years ago. All Saiyan Forms Multipliers - Dragon Ball Z/ GT/ Super/ Heroes featuring power level multipliers for all SSJ forms including Ikari form, Super Saiyan Rage, Super ...All Saiyan Forms Multipliers - Dragon Ball Z/ GT/ Super/ Heroes featuring power level multipliers for all SSJ forms including Ikari form, Super Saiyan Rage, ...One that thinks so, right here (Me)! It only makes sense, since Cell became Gohan's bitch at full power and even as UlThis is directly contradicted by the manga “Gohan was stronger as a brat” Read moreOozaru = Base ×10 SSJ1 = Base ×50 SSJ2 = "SSJ1" ×2 = Base ×100 SSJ3 = "SSJ2" ×4 = Base ×400 Gold Ape 1 = "Oozaru" ×"SSJ1" = Base × 500 Gold Ape 2 = "Oozaru" …Feb 10, 2012 · Lssj = Ssj x 5 (this is a guesstimation as I actually have never thought about it before) Ssj2 = Ssj x 4 or 200 x base. Ssj3 = Ssj2 x 2 or 400 x base. Ssj4 = ssj3 x 10 or 4,000 x base. I use the ... Super Saiyan Rage brought Trunks at least to SSB Goku and Vegeta's level, arguably higher when he first transformed, meaning the Rage multiplier is somewhere between SS3 and SSB using that logic. But, again, DBS is crap with powerscaling and such, so take this with a grain of salt. 1. ForceEdge47 • 7 yr. ago.Sign in with the following networks. or create a new account Register; Sign in with:Jul 9, 16 at 8:37am (PST) ^. re: LSsj form multiplier vs Ssj2 multiplier. No, I think Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan Grade 3 are both different manifestations of tapping into the same "beyond ...The discussion of Gohan having a large rage mutliplier in his SSJ2 form when fighting Cell got me thinking of something...1. Solember · 3/30/2017. The animators didn't know what Super Saiyan was going to look like. All they knew was that Goku would be getting a transformation. This was before it was decided that Super Saiyan would have blonde hair to save ink and time for Toriyama and his studio. (edited by Solember) 1.SSJ1 is x50, SSJ2 is x2 SSJ1 (so x100), SSJ3 is x4 SSJ2 (so x400). ... (so x400). SSJ4, SSG and SSGSS, have no official multipliers, but considering that SSGSS is just the SSJ version of SSG, it should be x50 SSG (however much that one is). Vegeta‘s SSGSSE was stated to be on par with Goku‘s SSGSS Kaioken x20, so it should be x20 SSGSS (and ...All Saiyan Forms Multipliers - Dragon Ball Z/ GT/ Super/ Heroes featuring power level multipliers for all SSJ forms including Ikari form, Super Saiyan Rage, ...Pretty much everything consistent says Grade 4 = 1. There should be _no one_ here saying Grade 4 > Grade 1 Literally evThe anime has shown that Kefla posses feats that pass Black Arc Vegito. You said that you are unsure how powerful Super Saiyan 1 Kefla is compared to Blue Kaioken Goku and I think I have the answer. Before transforming into Super Saiyan 2 as a Super Saiyan, Kefla was stated to have power comparable to the Universe 7 Spirit Bomb.re: Cell Games Ssj2 Gohan has a higher multiplier than Regular Ssj2 So Gohan basically went from his standard battle power [calm MSSJ, which was already >> MSSJ Goku] to a raged SSJ2.Ssj2 multiplier would be higher than kaioken x20. But this is where power scaling is garbage. If ssg is enough to entice beerus and ssb is a 50x multplyer on that, how strong is beerus?? Kiaoken x20 did shit on jiren, who is on par with beerus. But then ui is on par with jiren. Mastered ui is a league above jiren even with his awakening.the guides say 2x ssj, not 100x base, ssj GRADE 1 is 50x NOT THE OTHER GRADES, ssj2 (aka grade 5) is 2 times stronger than the GRADE 4 and not the grade 1. ITS NOT a 100x, and evidence and statements point out ssj2 to be more than 2000x the base. deh707 • 3 yr. ago. Just assume he meant 10 times 10. = 100x. Problem solved!Super Saiyan 2 Multiplier? Hey, I wanted to ask you guys, what exactly the multiplier of SSJ2 is. In the Daizenshuu & Super Exciting Guide character Volume its stated to be a 100 x Base multiplier but Zamasu stated vs Goku as a SSJ2 (eng sub): His ki's flared up... tens of times over! Link to image: http://prntscr.com/vfl1ve 7 comments Best Well, SSJ 1 -> SSJ2 is a 2x power increase, or ~20x base power. Then again Majin mind control spell provides “unlocking ones potential, increasing their power”, presumably until the effect wears off, and presumably a similar power increase as Elder Guru’s own unlock magic used on Gohan and Krillin. Power Levels of dragon ball z official (up to DBS). after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents. 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 ... SSJ2 Gohan: 3,500,000,000 SSJ 2 Gohan vs. Super Perfect Cell. SSJ 2 …2. #1 LifeShaver. We have the other Super Saiyan multipliers. . Super Saiyan is 50x. Super Saiyan 2 is 2x. Super Saiyan 3 is 4x. But what is the multiplier for. Saiyan God (Red Hair) and Super ...If you go by the SEG multiplier then SSJ2 is but 2x SSJ, meaning the Graded forms would be nothing more than percentage increase liks x0,25, x0,5 or …These are all the Super Saiyan Multipliers for the Fan Fiction Dragon Ball Orbs of Destruction. Oozaru: 10 times base Super Saiyan: 50 times base Ascended Super Saiyan: 75 times base, or 1.5 times Super Saiyan Ultra Super Saiyan: 100 times base, or 2 times Super saiyan Super Saiyan 2: 100 times base, or 2 times Super Saiyan, or = to Ultra Super saiyan Ultra Super Saiyan 2: 400 times base, or 4 ...Maybe the Saiyan cells in SP Cell's DNA turned SSJ2. Or just Goku/Gohan's (not sure if Gohan's cells are a part of him) portions only, while Vegeta's portion was still in SSJ1 lmao. But full power SSJ2 Kid Gohan was still clearly stronger due to being... an actual Saiyan (with more potential than Goku/Vegeta) after all.The thing we also know about SSJ is that it is NOT a static multiplier and that the x50 multiplier is the minimum. It has been shown that SSJ2/3 is merely an extension of the existing SSJ transformation. Thus we know the x50 multiplier is fluid and the highest multiplier is x400 for raw SSJ transformation in SSJ3.Here are my personal multipliers for forms: SSJ Grade 1: 50x base SSJ Grade 2: 75x base SSJ Grade 3: 2.2x SSJ SSJ Grade 4: 50x base SSJ2: 2x SSJ SSJ3: 4x SSJ2 Golden Great Ape: 1.25x SSJ3 SSJ4: 20x Golden Great Ape Full Power SSJ4: 5x SSJ4 Gogeta's SSJ4: At least 100x Full Power SSJ4 SSJ God: 20,000x Gogeta's SSJ4in: Combat Mechanic, Dragon Block C, Dragon Block Combat Mechanic, Dragon Block Movement Mechanic.Goku and Vegeta fighting together was no match for Buuhan, but Vegetto's base form already was stronger than him, meaning the multiplier bonus from fusions is pretty insane. - Caulifla was not stronger than Goku ssj2, but she was a decent fighter, possibly in a level between Goku in Buu saga and Vegeta after training 6 months alone with Whis.In the RoF saga Toriyoma establishes in the movie/anime and in interviews Goku's base power is SSG level due to absorbing and mastering the ki's power...Spoiler: Yet, if we go by the SEG multipliers that SSJ2 is but a mere 2x increase over the normal SSJ then both of these blatant massive increases in power …My multipliers. I have two lists. One where I use official multipliers, and one with fan multipliers. I usually use this: Super Saiyan = 50x base (sometimes I use 10x base) Super Saiyan 2 = 4x Super Saiyan / 200x base. Super Saiyan 3 = 5x Super Saiyan 2 / 1000x base. Super Saiyan 4 = no multiplier. Thread title: From: Last replied: Now searching... Featured: Sports Football (Soccer) Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Dragonball Forum Final Fantasy VIII Thinker's Lounge Movies Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ...2) SSJG > SSJ2 pre-retcon (low end) Beerus supposedly used 10% of his power to fight SSJ2 Vegeta, and he supposedly went 100% against SSJG Goku SSJG: 10*SSJ2 = 1000x increase. 3) SSJG > SSJ3 pre-retcon (mid end) Beerus used less than 10% against SSJ3 Goku, but 100% against SSJG Gokui SSJG Goku: 10x400 = 4000x increase. 4) SSJG > SSJ Vegito ...The Mystic state is basically the transformed strength into the base form which , What are the multipliers for the grades between SSJ and SSJ2? So it’s, The conclusion of this is that Super Saiyan 3 is, in relation to SSJ2, a power boost big enough to int, I suppose "Mastered Super Saiyan 2" could be either Vegeta's "mutated&qu, Jan 17, 2018 · I'd say at most, the multiplier would be 60,000x Ss, SSj2 & SSj3 Multipliers - Jun 23, 12; Lets talk ssj>ssj2>ssj3 multipliers - Mar 19, 17; If t, re: SSj2 & SSj3 Multipliers I find the "Kaioshin's an idiot" approach to work particularly we, But its existence contradicts nothing (aside from the wack, Emperor Pilaf Saga. Turtle = 0.001 Pocawatha = 1 P, Goku Black's speed would be exponentally higher than 41.5 Quadrillio, Pass. Updated. Mar. 12, 2023. Description. Stronger th, The numbers for SSJ multiplier ARE canon, multiplier for SSJ1 is , #1 Super Saiyan God Multipler It was accepted here that Super, 4000 (ss3 multiplier) x (weakness between the boys and goku), Goku Black's speed would be exponentally higher than 41.5 Quadrillion, Updated Super Saiyan multipliers. Pseudo Super Saiya, Kefla's SSJ1 is noted to be stronger than a regular SSJ1, so it could , That's what I've always thought, though s.